A spiritual person is just innocent. There is no intelligence, nothing, just innocence. The whole thing is innocence. Whatever he says comes through innocence. It does not have intellect as such, which you people have through reading and through understanding and by analyzing, nothing of the kind. It just has pure and simple innocence and it works out very well. It is so clean and just says what it knows. And what it knows is the highest. So this deconditioning has to be brought within us, but you should not discuss it among yourself also. Once you start discussing, then it becomes a sort of a theological argumentation. There is no theology about it. It is very simple. The simplest thing is to be innocent, but the innocence is lost because our attention is in a different way. We are attentive to other things. We are looking at other things. It is so simple. (1.01.1983)